Eurekaprom, eprom upgrade for the behringer fcb1010. I purchased an eleven rack a couple of years back and loved the way it brought back my desire to play thru ampcabinet set ups but i just didnt want to deal with the hassle of the equipment and the unpredictable foh techs. Id say the decision should be made with your wallet because the kemper and the axe fx any model are superior to the 11r and gsp. Finally, a quick word on modelling gear vs traditional amps. I also own a pod hd500, an eleven rack and an axe fx ii. You can buy a good modeler used axefx standard or avid eleven rack for that much. The eleven rack is capable of excellent real tube amp sounds and great effects but i think the axe fx has more of them but at 250 350 for a eleven rack its really hard to justify the extra cost of the axe fx. Ax8 amp modelermulti fx processor quantum amp modeling, ultrares cab sims, and fractalquality effects. Dingwall ng2, zoom b3, darkglass b3k, origin effects cali76 and im planning to buyif i choose to go full analog darkglass b7k ultra, isp decimator noise gate, tc electronic hall of fame, dsm noisemaker omnicabsim deluxe. Eleven rack, axefx ultra and axefx ii, and while all of them do some things very well, none. The kemper is the only reason i stayed with amp emulation units. Roger linn design adrenalinn iii, kemper profiling amp, behringer vamp series, behringer bass vamp series, avid eleven rack, tc electronic gforce, tc electronic gmajor, tc electronic gsharp, tc electronic nova, fractal audio systems axe fx standard, fractal audio systems axe fx.
I have been intrigued by the kemper vs axe fx vs line 6 vs eleven rack. Kemper is so much better than fractal kemper profiler forum. Fractal mfc101 using the uno4kemper eprom and labels, the fcb10101 is even easier to use with the kemper, and the features such as automatic tuner when the volume pedal is up, or the display that works with the tuner are brilliant. Axe fxkemper vs pedals the title basically says it all, im currently debating between those two. Unlike other digital solutions axe fx, eleven rack, pod hd, etc, kemper does not require a lot of tweaking. The tools might be different, but this change in attitude means not only that use of modelling will become more common, but that manufacturers will. Those now are static something like a, 32000 point eq for a good pc, 2000 point eq on the axe fx ii, on the axe fx i, who knows what for the kemper. Im looking into checking out either the axefx ii or the kemper kpa.
Sep 25, 2017 its commonplace to find records by small and touring bands that use fully modelled amplifiers whether it be from a plugin like positive grids bias, or a hardware rack unit like the axe fx. Is that really the case for studio sounds and recording. Axe fx vs helix vs kemper vs amplifire modelling amps shootout. Would be nice to have 1 kemper in my studio and 1 in my guitarrack, just moving sound by a usbstick well, thats just a dream, and dreams cost me nothing. Kemper has an incredibly realistic feel and response.
Im getting rid of the amp, the gsystem and the 4x12. The eleven rack is an improvement i admit, ive only played one for about 10 minutes after owning an ultra since 2007, its just too annoying to play longer, but it is still both much more static than the axe, and much more digital. Check out this video compares three amp models found in fractal audios axe fx. Fractal mfc101 using the uno4kemper eprom and labels, the fcb10101 is even easier to use with the kemper, and the features such as automatic tuner when the volume pedal is up, or.
Nov 18, 2011 since i dont play out any longer, im looking to sell offdownsize my rig. Available as a rackmountable unit like the axe fx, one advantage that. Users who like eleven rack vs amplifire vs axefx ii jcm800. Thats why i went for the head vs the stage or rack. Im not sure wether to invest in an axefx 3 or try to get by with the bias fx, since its a hefty price and the bias is not too bad. Eleven rack all fairly good but the kemper is better than them all.
Kemper since those are the two ive owned and used extensively. As much as id love to go with a kemper or fractal, i dont feel good about. Jan 02, 2016 as mentioned the quality level is now so high at least for kemper axe fx that comparing generic amps is irrelevant. The kemper has a slight cockedwah thing going on and an exaggerated lowend.
Owning both i can honestly say if i were on a limited budget the 11 rack is an absolute no brainer. If i quantified that, i think there are more on the kemper i prefer than on the axe, than vice versa. Ax8 amp modelermultifx processor fractal audio systems. Except for sgear which sounds like the software equivalent of the kemper. If you want to have separate, controllable outputs one for the board, one to an ampmonitor the 11r, sets the volume of the different output points on a per patch basis, and only what you. The axe fx ii is more accurate and more realistic sounding. In europe, axe fx 2 cost over 1100usd more than kemper. There are really only two choices that are practical for home use imo. The unit was wisely designed to work as a kind of interface for recording, and in this regard its got an upper hand over most modellers that leave any. Also, at this point in time the axefx is rackmountable and the kemper is kind of a standalone setup. Modelling gear kemper, axe fx, eleven rack, pod thefretboard. Hey guys, as a bass player i have been using kemper for a while, recently when i was going to do a bass cover video of peripherys make total destroy. All axe fx models and the helix have a short dropout when switching presets. For a while the axefx has been hands down the best modeler ive tried, and when the 11 rack came out i knew i had to give it a shot, given the fairly attractive price.
It features many of the same leadingedge technologies utilized in our flagship axe fx ii processor, now offered in a floor unit at a fantastic price. Id say the decision should be made with your wallet because the kemper and the axefx any model are superior to the 11r and gsp. On a side note, you guys who choose the axe for the effects are ridiculous. If you have the money get a kemper it is the best amp i have ever used. Oct 04, 2017 the eleven rack is capable of excellent real tube amp sounds and great effects but i think the axe fx has more of them but at 250 350 for a eleven rack its really hard to justify the extra cost of the axe fx. Since i dont play out any longer, im looking to sell offdownsize my rig. Everywhere i read, it comes out that the 11 rack works just with pro tools, but then, others say it works with other daws too. Eleven, axe fx and then the kemper is probably the ultimate but youre rather using snapshots rather. The only useful test i can think of is to compare with a specific amp, because no two tube amps sound the same and even more importantly moving the mic position just one 1 cm in any direction can change tone more than. Ax8 amp modelermultifx processor quantum amp modeling, ultrares cab sims, and fractalquality effects. Jan 30, 2017 kemper needs to get with the game on a floorboard version. Since making a broad sound also of axefx and eleven rack was completed, it was only an example, but i wanted to compare them. Jun 08, 2012 line 6 pro hd vs axe fx ii stick for me.
Eleven rack is a professional pro tools hardware software bundle that provides the ultimate recording and amplifier emulation solution for guitar players. Helix or kemper discussion in modeling amps, plugins and apps started by deplorable g, jan 30, 2017. Dontwont have the cash anyone with any experience with. The multiamp does not suffer from overly engineered software complexity that the user could take days or weeks to learn. Cant afford a kemper or axe fx but those eleven racks are pretty dirt cheap. There are some models on the axe, i like better than profiles on kemper, and vice versa. I think units like the axe fx and kemper are pointing the way, the next step is to. I have been intrigued by the kemper vs axe fx vs line 6 vs eleven rack debates on youtube. Hey ross overall what unit represents the best sounds period in your opinion. They dontcant match how the cab reacts vs your dynamics or the way negative feedback or dampening reacts with your amp they cant because it is a physical interaction, the speaker the. Users who like eleven rack vs amplifire vs axe fx ii jcm800.
Here are a few bullet points to consider, just off the top of my head. Well, i have no experience with the kemper so i cant say anything about quality of tones but i can tell you why i chose the axe. Sep 18, 2017 i can just give you my personal experience, and that with the kemper and axe fx. Im sure the avid eleven rack is an amazing rack mount multifx amp modeller, but the software and updating process is a complete.
Axe fx vs helix vs kemper vs amplifire modelling amps. The bias fx seem to be getting the job done, but all the comparisons i hear between the two of them really make the axe fx sound much better. I think the 11r has a few very similar sounds as the axe fx, but the axe is capable of more. The profiling thing is a unique approach to modeling.
Any of them can be used to achieve great sounding liverecorded guitar and bass. Truth be told, i was anti axe fx before the axe fx ii hit. I cant really speak to the eleven racks, axe fx or kempers as i dont have any of them. Hello im just wondering if i should go with the er axe fx or the kemper im just a guy who plays in the basement and likes to play and have. So i want to get serious with my recordings and looking to get one of the two of these because of their amazing sound and versatility.
Another thing is axe edit, the software editor for the axe. Lenovo ideacentre k430 windows 7 pro sp1 64bit pc with 3rd generation 3. Roger linn design adrenalinn iii, kemper profiling amp, behringer vamp series, behringer bass vamp series, avid eleven rack, tc electronic gforce, tc electronic gmajor, tc electronic gsharp, tc electronic nova, fractal audio systems axefx standard, fractal audio systems axefx. Once youve got it you just tweak the reverb or some basic eq and you are there. Completely custom per your specific needs length, labeling, types of cabling including humbuster io. But, if i didnt have the kemper, id be giddy with just the axe. Avid 11 rack guitar modelling amp vs axe fx gearslutz. If you are looking for highend modelers, the axe fx should be on the top of your list. Nov 01, 2017 kemper vs avid eleven mk ii en espanol adrian tucker. I use guitar rig mostly, but i have a few other software apps to rout. I wasnt over impressed by the axe fx especially for the money. Axe fx vs eleven rack vs pod hd 500x rob chapman forum.
The kemper is the best of the bunch after the axe fx ii. Also, at this point in time the axe fx is rackmountable and the kemper is kind of a standalone setup. As mentioned the quality level is now so high at least for kemper axe fx that comparing generic amps is irrelevant. The axefx ultra i have suffers from a couple of the same ills as the 11r. Users who reposted eleven rack vs amplifire vs axefx ii jcm800. Axefx vs eleven rack dream theater on the backs of.
It features many of the same leadingedge technologies utilized in our flagship axefx ii processor, now offered in a floor unit at a fantastic price. I found a good deal on a used eleven rack and was wondering whether its worth it. Its the only modeler ive tried although i am very curious about the axe ii and kemper. Discover three scenarios for using eleven rack live. Users who reposted eleven rack vs amplifire vs axe fx ii jcm800. The kemper is an amp, it looks like an amp, the ui is designed to operate like an amp and you have the option of a built in poweramp if you have the budget. As much as id love an axe fx, if im honest with myself guitar rig has been enough for me. This is a rediculus thread,like compairing an slo with an mg 10. Had an eleven rack and its a very capable piece of gear, and got much better results with that than the various. Discussion axe fx 2 vs fractal fx8 vs kemper vs bias amp vs.
The tools might be different, but this change in attitude means not only that. Sep 18, 2017 i cant really speak to the eleven racks, axe fx or kempers as i dont have any of them. Those now are static something like a, 32000 point eq for a good pc, 2000 point eq on the axefx ii, on the axefx i, who knows what for the kemper. The editor also makes it super easy to control everything. For a while the axe fx has been hands down the best modeler ive tried, and when the 11 rack came out i knew i had to give it a shot, given the fairly attractive price. It was my last shot before going back to tubes exclusively pod 2 rp eleven rack kemper i made the right decision. I couldnt even decide so i ended up getting both the ultra and the kemper awhile back.
I think you can get fairly close to it with a pod hd. And up to 6 month wait for axe while i can buy a kemper today. I could never go back to a real amp now, my cave man days are over, helix rack or fx3 are so far ahead of mere stage amps and pedals that. The original preamp head is available in white or black, while all the other options are black only. Get everything you need and moreto showcase your skills, including a highresolution, dspaccelerated hardware interface, industrystandard pro tools software, standalone eleven rack editor.
Live, no question about it, the axe fx wins in this department. Playlists containing eleven rack vs amplifire vs axe. Both helix and positive grid have killed off eleven rack especially as. Discussion axe fx 2 vs fractal fx8 vs kemper vs bias amp.
I sometimes run a timmy or fatboost3 in front for a touch of drive. I use guitar rig mostly, but i have a few other software apps to rout signal through. Customized configurations for the following effect units. The kemper is also available in a rackmount chassis, and both the rack and standalone head can be bought with an integral 600watt class d power stage for live use. The axefx isnt revolutionary, its just a digital modeller that sounds better than line 6 products and the eleven rack.
Kemper is the only one with seamless preset switching. And then for much less money boss has its incredible katana and nextone combos that sound so darn good and convenient, and the katana can function as a clean poweramp bypassing the preamps, a great choice to give the helix or kemper an powered speaker with some post preamp eq, sweet. Control eleven rack with a controller or volume pedal. But the kemper just seems like a harsh version of the amp its trying to imitate and lacks in accurate spectral balance. A lot of people would argue that the line 6 should sit on the throne as it is the one who has the longest tenure in the industry. Kemper vs real amp head with two notes torpedo live.